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Message 1504 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 13:27:42 UTC

Just curious if Mind Modeling is ever really going to be back to operating on a full time basis? It's been well over a year since I've got any work units and it seems the response is always "coming soon" and months later still not there other than a few test work units.

Is it going to be weeks, months, or years before MM actually has workunits on a regular basis? Is this project really ever going to be back?

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Message 1505 - Posted: 7 Jul 2010, 18:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 1504.

Sorry for not responding quicker, but I don't check the forums regualrly at the moment.

As you might have expected, we're still in development and probably several months away from going fully live again. We've been side-tracked with a lot of IT and server migration work, and have not been able to focus our full attention on the software development side of things. Fortunately, we'll be doing some scheduling, estimating, and planning over the next month and I'll be able to give you a better timeframe of expected release dates then.

I will be releasing a "very small" job over the next week, but it won't significant impact our volunteers.

I'll keep the volunteers informed as more information becomes available. And as always, thanks for you patience.

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Message 1515 - Posted: 24 Aug 2010, 15:02:09 UTC

Hi Tom,

Is it possible to have a reasonably regular update posted either in the forums or on the home page? I presume I am like many others, still subscribed to the project and keen to do some work when it is available.

Will there be work available for GPUs (CUDA) when you finally get everything sorted out?

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Message 1517 - Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 8:50:21 UTC - in response to Message 1515.

It has been three months since last workunits were distributed and according to what was posted, the migration was nearly complete. Could we have some update on when the new system can be rolled out and jobs will again be distributed?

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Message 1518 - Posted: 11 Nov 2010, 16:36:44 UTC

Yeah, I'd also like to know the current status of things :)

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Message 1519 - Posted: 25 Nov 2010, 7:22:44 UTC

It seems that the people behind this project lack some communications skills. If/when they finally fire up some work for crunchers to perform there may not be anyone left connected to this project. The lack of communication is leaving me very close to disconnecting.

My machines do work on several other projects so my machines are always ticking away doing BOINC work so it is no real loss from my perspective. I run Seti work because that is where my journey began many years ago. All the other projects I run are related to improving the health of man, eg GPUGRID, Rosetta, WCG, Docking, and SIMAP.

Seti is going through a major reconfig at present with it being down for the better part of a month now, but their web site and forums are full of updates that are posted regularly. Most other projects are regularly updating their status and publishing news. It doesn't take much to do this.

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Message 1520 - Posted: 2 Dec 2010, 15:56:44 UTC - in response to Message 1519.

To Dave_In_Oz:

My apologies for not updating the forums more recently. My focus has been on software development, and I haven't made it a habit of checking the forums regularly.

To answer your other question, we're currently not focused on GPUs right now, but it is definitely a possibility down the road.

To philip-in-hongkong:

The migration in late July was completed with much success, allowing us to expand our hardware infrastructure to two other sites (for a total of three) and our research efforts. Since then, our team has focused on software re-factors which will make it easier for our scientists to submit work to volunteers, our administrators to catch and fix bugs, and our volunteers to crunch more data.

It is difficult to say when new work will be available, because it depends on research submitted to us by our scientists. We have not been actively pursuing work to crunch while we make updates to the system, but we have made major investments and partnerships for the future which should give us (and you) plenty of work to do when the time comes :)

To everyone:

Thank you for being interested enough in our work and our project to continually stay attached, check out the forums, and wait patiently. Cognitive science is an ever-growing and interesting field, and we are excited with each new direction it takes us.

To reward those who are continually checking the forums for work updates and maybe those who are just plain interested, I'll commit to posting at least once every two weeks with current updates and information. I haven't decided whether I will post to the news feed or just the forums, so check out both for now if your interested.

To give you a bit of an update right now:
We're currently in the process of testing our server software (unit tests, system tests, etc.), updating our BOINC project code, creating a continuous integration environment, and documenting the software changes for our scientists and developers. The new system has been tested to work on local volunteers (a couple of simulated VMs for Mac, Windows, and Linux clients), but we still need to work out a few bugs and refactor the code so it's more maintainable.

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Message 1521 - Posted: 3 Dec 2010, 22:21:49 UTC

The best way IMO to post the updates is with the news feed. Those will get noticed by a lot more people. News feeds get updated in vb forums that a lot of teams use.

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Message 1523 - Posted: 6 Dec 2010, 12:17:50 UTC

Yeah, that is the solution we're leaning towards.

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Message 1524 - Posted: 14 Dec 2010, 0:46:35 UTC

Thanks Tom for the update. Hopefully by staying connected to the project we will see some work come our way. It doesnt take much to remain connected if there is a prospect of work eventually arriving on our machines.

Messages via the news feed should end up showing up on other pages such as Boincstats.

CUDA applications would be great to have, not only would it improve turnaround of work units but also take advantage of a growing community of systems with NVIDIA cards that are there to be used by projects.

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Message 1532 - Posted: 3 Feb 2011, 5:37:24 UTC

Any update on when MM will come out to play?? Seems to be a lack of updates :(

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Message 1533 - Posted: 3 Feb 2011, 12:27:41 UTC - in response to Message 1532.

I'm not sure if you've seen the recent news post:

Over the next couple days we will be deploying our new system to the live site. Most of the migration should go unnoticed except for a few modifications to our forums, including a news thread. There may be be several short periods when the site is inaccessible, but these should be minor and infrequent. If you notice something on the site is broken or missing, please report it on the forums or via private message and we will address it as soon as possible. Thanks!

After the system is deployed, new work should start trickling in from our researchers.

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Message 1802 - Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 23:19:08 UTC - in response to Message 1533.

lol hope so,,, this is the 1 project i started and well thats about all

ive done lol.... 101 credits is shameful lol........

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Message 1814 - Posted: 16 Mar 2011, 15:39:26 UTC

And suddenly, there is one WUs downloaded, then there isn't anymore on my other boxes. Am I dreaming?

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Message 1815 - Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 12:34:28 UTC

same here, one WU downloading with an awefully slow connection with 3 kbps...

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Message 1826 - Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 17:31:35 UTC

Are you still experiencing this slow connection speed? Are others experiencing this as well?

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Message 1835 - Posted: 11 Apr 2011, 16:10:33 UTC - in response to Message 1826.

I've had "download pending" for days now.

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Message 1838 - Posted: 4 May 2011, 16:30:33 UTC
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When more work is generated, please let me know if this issue persists. We are distributing much larger files for our new application, the ACT-R cognitive architecture specifically, and that may be the reason why tasks take longer to download on a whole. We will continually work to optimize this as we use and refine the application.

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Message 1845 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 17:24:20 UTC

Downloading the ACT-R app, size is 31MB. Progress after 66 minutes is 87%, download rate ist ~7kB/s.

It seems that the download issue persists.

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Message 1846 - Posted: 24 May 2011, 18:28:19 UTC - in response to Message 1845.

Downloading the ACT-R app, size is 31MB. Progress after 66 minutes is 87%, download rate ist ~7kB/s.

It seems that the download issue persists.


same over here..

someone over there definitely has a problem with his ISP!

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